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Wednesday, February 23, 2011

BREAKING: Modernist Schism Now Imminent !!!

An example of liturgical and doctrinal abuse in the Catholic Church
Masses like this are forbidden by Rome.
(Sydney Morning Herald) - The Catholic Church is facing open defiance over its new Mass, with at least a dozen Australian priests indicating they will refuse to use it when it comes into force later this year.

Hundreds more are angry about the lack of consultation for the new, more literal translation of the 400-year-old Latin text, which was heavily influenced by a Vatican advisory committee headed by the Sydney Archbishop, Cardinal George Pell.

What supporters say is a suitably elevated and poetic text more faithful to the original Latin is seen by detractors as an outdated, contrived and less inclusive version that ignores modern English and could further alienate Catholics from the church. It has become the latest battleground in the culture wars between progressive Catholics and traditionalists over the direction of reforms stemming from the 1960s Vatican Council, which allowed the faithful to celebrate the liturgy in their own language for the first time...

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THE CATHOLIC KNIGHT: A direct confrontation between the Vatican and the Modernists in the Church is about to come down - this year! That is unless the Vatican blinks and postpones the implementation of the new English translation of the Roman Missal. The question that arises is who's in charge here? Is this a Church still governed by the pope? Or has the Catholic Church become a mere collective, with nobody really in charge, sort of like the Anglican Communion. The message the Vatican sends over the next ten months will be crucial.

If the Vatican blinks, postponing the implementation of the new translation (which has already been postponed for years), it will send a clear message that the Modernists are still in charge of the Catholic Church, and the leadership in Rome fears threats of schism more than orthopraxy. Is Pope Benedict still our fearless German Shepherd? We will know for sure on November 27th, 2011 - the date the new English translation of the Roman Missal is set to go into effect.

Simultaneously, in the United States, a group of potential schismatics and heretics are meeting in Detroit on June 10th through the 12th in what has been compared to an alternate Church authority opposed to the Vatican and the U.S. Council of Catholic Bishops (USCCB). The American Catholic Council is a potentially schismatic and heretical group that has already been condemned by the Archbishop of Detroit - His Excellency Allen Henry Vigneron. The intention of this group is to celebrate the post-conciliar liturgical abuses and doctrinal innovations, as well as promote them for future development. The group is also calling for a complete restructuring of Church governance, setting itself up as a potential alternative to the USCCB.

What we have here are the makings of a whole new schism in the Catholic Church, comparable to the Protestant Reformation some 500 years ago. Any attempt to reason with these people will result in failure and give them the credibility they need to spread their errors. We can only hope the Vatican, and the bishops in Australia and the United States, take a strong stand against this type of open rebellion.

21 comments:

Dan Z. said...

I say the Vatican should propose a trade, like sports teams. We're already taking all the orthodox and traditional Anglicans and now even Lutherans, so let these "spirit of Vatican II" liberal dissenting Catholics become Episcipalian/Anglican or Lutheran.

What will probably happen is the new translation will start on the appointed day, and it will be up to the local bishop to deal with these nuts.

Servent of the Cheif said...

These heretics cannot be reasoned with. Let them split if they wish to keep their selfish and spiritually suicidal ways, they as a movement will die off alot faster then the Protestant errors will. God save the Pope!

Servant of Rome said...

It grieves me to see people pursue and advocate this false and pathetic liturgy. If people would leave over the new interpretation of the Roman Missal being used this year- they were probably never real Catholics to begin with!

Caroline said...

What did these openly defiant people do yesterday when the church celebrated the Chair of Peter and all it represents? Ignore it? This is a showdown that can't be delayed..I pray the Vatican holds firm on the implementation of this translation. Too
many souls are at stake.

+PAX

Anonymous said...

Sir Knight, I agree with the comments above. LET THEM LEAVE. Rome should simply face facts and be done with it. I believe the USCCB has already stated that the new translation WILL be used, no other missal will be allowed. Now its up to them to show some testosterone and deal with these dissenters once and for all. You are 100% correct: postponing its implementation would be a signal of Rome's weakness. The same thing is true for the watering down of SP, again at the demands of the liberals. But you know, Sir Knight, the bottom line for this possible schism is, I guess the bottom line. You got a bunch of greying left over 60s types. Where are they going to go? Who will pay their pensions, medical coverage etc? The Episcopals?? HAHA. I would say to Rome to call their bluff and say "dont let the door hit you on the way out." Pete Frey

James said...

If any TCK reader belongs to a parish that refuses to celebrate the new translation of the Mass, they should quit that parish, and then go to the pastor of that parish and DEMAND he refund every single dollar they donated to that parish in thier lifetime, and threaten to sue that pastor and the parish if he refuses. Then report it to thier bishop.

scotju said...

Will the new translation of the missal be a paperback one like the OCP ones we got now and throw away with the changing seasons, or will it be a permament hardback missal like we sed to have?

Anonymous said...

It would be a good idea if these Catholics, including bishops, priests and laypeople did leave and join the Episcopal church. It really is perfect for them.

We can trade them for the incoming priests and laypeople in the Ordinariate.

It is sad that so many Catholics question whether these Anglicans are Catholic enough, as I see it most are more faithful to the teachings of the Church than many of the Catholics I see. They also have a wonderful liturgy and music. Hopefully the new liturgy for them will be from the Anglican Missal with some moderate changes.

paula said...

We are living in decisive times. Now the wheat will be separated from the chaff.
I hope that kind of people will leave the Chuch the sonner the better and will leave us in peace.

Anonymous said...

I fear for the life of the pope. If he acts decisively, and draws a firm line in the sand against the Modernists, I believe his life will be in danger. One of the tenets of liberalism is that it approves of the violent removal of opposition.

Anthony S. Layne said...

These folks are simply trying to make de jure what they already are de facto. They're doomed to fail; the parishes that are growing are the ones faithful to the Magisterium. So, as Hilaire Belloc said, "Do not, I beseech you, trouble yourself about forces already in disarray. They have mistaken the hour; it is not the middle of the night, but the coming of the dawn."

Anonymous said...

No, it will not send a message that the modernists are in charge if the Vatican "blinks." Please! You are giving them and the devil too much credit!

You know in the end they win the battle but loose the war. That is how it works.

Take heart!

Anonymous said...

How about this for a photo caption: A priestess, a glass of grape juice and a stack of matzah bread walk into a bar ...

God Bless the Magisterium!

Roberto said...

The USA has never been a Catholic country... It has always been Protestant, in its majority, and as a whole... Let these heretics leave the Church... Remember that USA Catholics represent only around 5% of the Catholic Church, anyway... With more than 1.1 billion faithful, a few million dissenters won't be missed! I truly believe the time of the Great Apostasy is upon us... ! One TCK blog follower once said "what we need is a new Inquisition"... The Vatican, and especially the Pope, WILL stand strong against them... And may our former Anglican and Lutheran brothers reuniting with the Church make it a richer, holier institution... May God help us all

Lucia Maria said...

This development is worrying. Australia is right next door to us here in New Zealand. We have enough trouble with modernists trying to incorporate pagan spirituality without them getting ideas. The problem with them leaving the Church is the lack of a real alternative in some areas if this becomes a large exodus.

Hopefully, the fact that many of these dissenters haven't left, shows that they won't separate. They may be more like naughty children whose parents haven't put in place firm boundaries until now, but they're going to keep pushing they are pulled into line.

Pat said...

Maybe someone here can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the leaders of the Womenpriest movement, including the woman celebrating mass in the photo, Bridget Mary Meehan, were all officially excommunicated. So doesn't that mean the schism has already happened? All that remains is for their new denomination, whatever it is called, to grow as more and more disaffected Catholic go over to them.
Also, there was a piece on Father Z's blog about a woman who was ordained and then renounced her ordination and came back to the Church. She claims that these womenpriests and bishops were originally ordained secretly by male Roman Catholic bishops in good standing with the Holy See. If that's true, and there are bishops secretly ordaining women behind the Pope's back, then the coming schism might be a lot larger then we realize.

Anthony S. Layne said...

@ Pat: There are a relative handful of churches that call themselves "ecumenical Catholic", but there's no formal structure tying them together; I think that's what this ACC meeting that was called to take place in Michigan this year is trying to accomplish. However, as I said before, the liberal movement isn't growing; it's getting older, and its younger adherents are leaving religious practice entirely while they're busy contracepting, buggering and aborting themselves out of the gene pool.

scotju said...

PBXVI has shown when he's forced into a corner, that he will fight. If these illiberals continue to fight, they will discover the German Shepherd in the corner can bite really hard!

Ben Vallejo said...

Oh well. If they can't handle the rules, then let them go!

David said...

LOL!! Propose a trade. That's actually what first struck me here too. I've heard today on Real Catholic TV, and now on the Catholic Knight Blog that there are groups of liberal priests in Ireland, the U.S., Australia, etc. who refuse to listen to Rome on the Latin Mass.

I personally have a lot more respect for a lot of Christians who aren't Catholic. These liberal Vatican II types are wolves in our midst. And I would say that just bc they're Catholic doesn't make them less Christian than traditional Anglicans or Lutherans- they are.

Philip said...

I attend Mass at a St Pius X Church and my kids go to a society school. We are true Catholics, love The Pope and support him all the way in this battle. God Bless Benedic XV1!berble