THE CATHOLIC KNIGHT is looking for intelligent and thoughtful feedback. Please take a look at the above video and link. Compare the message of this organization with that of Distributism, Subsidiarity and Chivalry. Post your comments below.
I am not interested in inane comments from pro-federal big-government apologists. I do not want to read ridiculous comments about "racist rednecks" and "backward hillbillies." These types of ad hominems serve no purpose other than to pacify the intolerance of those who post them. They will be deleted and never see the light of day on this blog. I do not allow racist comments on this blog, nor will I allow comments from those who race bait. I personally see no functional difference between a hardened Klansman, and a person who points the finger and cries "racism!" at the mere sight of pride in one's heritage and beliefs. They are both the same in my book -- people of intolerance who are beyond the pale of civil discussion. This will remain a civil discussion about real ideas and possible solutions to real problems. There are no less than half a dozen credible secessionist movements in the United States today. All of them are legitimate in my view, and the Southern secessionist movement is just one of them. They will all be treated equally here in this discussion.
As a practicing traditional Catholic, an American and a Southerner, I believe the empire called the United States of America has gotten too big, and the federal government is now beyond reform. Furthermore, I believe the federal government is controlled entirely by big-business and banking cartels. I do not believe the common people of the United States are represented by the United States government anymore, nor do I believe they have been represented for a very long time. I believe the entire system has become fraudulent and manipulated. I believe the best solution to this problem is to simply allow the inevitable collapse of the United States federal government, and then allow the various regional cultures of the United States to forge their own forms of government and assume their places among the nations of the earth. In my opinion, the proposals now being put forth for the restoration of the Confederate States of America (Dixie) best reflect our traditional Catholic beliefs and sensibilities. I could be wrong about that, and I admit the possibility of error, but at this juncture I do not see it. So whether you are Catholic or not, I invite your thoughts here, keeping in mind the reasonable limitations I have spelled out above....
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Funny you bring this subject up (by the way, thanks for putting Texas back with Dixie).
If we go forward with this, we need to figure out how taxation will work, and I have the solution.
Borrowing an idea from the Constitution party, we have half the Confederate budget come from tariffs on imports and the other half will come from only 14 tax payers: the states. Each pays about 3.57% of their revenues to the Dixie government but they would each decide for themselves how to come up with their own tax revenue. We would then write on paper the Dixie government cannot obtain taxes through income.
Agreed. But I would take it a step further and say that in keeping with the principles of Subsidiarity and Confederalism, the national government is forbidden from levying any direct tax in the individuals of the states; no income, sales or property tax allowed from the Confederate national government. The Confederate government shall in no way tax the people directly. This matter MUST be handled by the states so to people have greater local control over their taxing governing authorities.
This all sounds pretty good, but what if one state decided to keep taxes less than half that of the other states. Then their 3.57% would be half of that of the other states, yet they would expect the same amount of protection from invasion or whatever duties were granted the Dixie government.
I agree that the Dixie government should not tax the individuals directly, and think their duties should be limited as well.
Perhaps something should be done about term limits up front as well, so we don't end up with professional politicians growing rich at our expense, and being so hard to get rid of.
Indirect taxation and term limits mentioned above are two good ideas. I would also recommend caution regarding the Rockefellers and other elite Yankee banking families that run the banking systems and foundations that manipulate government behind the scenes; these elites must be exposed and resisted at all costs as they have been getting their way since the 1840's and they will not let us be free without a fight.
We can us the internet to keep tabs on anti-secession activities such as the Council on Foreign Relations (run by Rockefellers) purposely picking Southern scalawag governors such as Bush and Perry to promote the New World Order agenda while fooling us locals into thinking that they're actually conservative populists.
Why do you think they put Newt in there? I think he is evil. They are saying the new world order wants him in as President after Obama, and then we really will have wars, wars, wars! Also he is a member of the same society that Rockefeller is and wrote a book about the Third Wave which is a combination of capitalism and communism, wrote the forward and "strongly endorsed" a book about how the Future World Society wants to destroy the family and Christianity.
A lot of those folks in the newsclips were "evil" as far as I was concerned. I think the purpose of them was to demonstrated that the federal union is falling apart and even the mainstream TV personalities know that.
Just a couple of thoughts: First regarding how the "representatives" don't represent the people. My brother-in-law has often said there should be more than just the two main political parties. I disagree. I think Jefferson didn't want ANY political parties to perform because then, the elected officials would be pressed to put PARTY interests ahead of their constituencies. I live in West Virginia and our new senator Joe Manchin has been known to cross party lines and go independent just to invoke the wrath of Harry Reid. Harry Reid shouldn't be able to influence how MY senator votes--only those of us in THIS state. Secondly on taxation, I've long had this idea: Here in WV, we have one of the most legislature-centric states. A few years ago, we had a neighboring county that had such a budget surplus the county commission voted NOT to collect property taxes that year. But the legislature told them THEY HAD TO. State law requires EVERY county to collect property taxes WHETHER THEY NEED IT OR NOT. So the take away is as a county government, it's better to waste money than manage it. So my thinking is this: The only tax would be a sales tax. The state would set a statewide rate so all counties would collect the same amount. But 90% of all revenues collected would stay in the county in which they are collected with the remaining 10% going to the capitol. WV has 55 counties, so Charleston (our capitol) would get a tithe from each county. If we carried this forward, then we would allow the capitol of Dixie to have 10% from each individual state. Further, I would keep as much of the bureaucracies as local as possible (whatever bureaucracies are needed). I run a small business and have to file all my paperwork with the state. Move that function to the county level. Let me apply for all my licenses and pay necessary fees to my county. So a county that's better run would reap the benefits by having more businesses open there.
To Mary Ellen:
No...their rate would still be 3.57%.
It wouldn't matter if they lowered their tax rate. The 3.57 would be taken from the state revenues.
Another suggestion is to teach as many young people and friends about how the New World Order has already brain-washed us. Since the 1970's, television shows have been diminishing the importance of love, family,intelligence, and religion while promoting sex without commitment, gay lifestyles, air-headedness, and materialism. This has also been accomplished through public schools and liberal churches.
To counteract this, we must unbrain-wash ourselves, our children, and our friends with the power of rational and critical thinking. We must learn not to trust those in power no matter how smooth they seem and we must always ask the right questions. One such question could be, why is it such a priority for the elites to promote men as feminized in almost every new sitcom? could it be that weak men will be less able to resist?
Thanks for realigning Oklahoma where she belongs. Remember Stand Watie was the last Confederate General to surrender his command to the Union forces. Oklahoma has much more cultural alignment with the South and particularly the Southwest culture than it does with the Midwest. In fact there’s a big chunk of Southeastern Oklahoma that’s always been known as “Little Dixie”.
There is something to be said for the use of tariffs and a levy on the states for the funding of the confederal government of the South. I think that just as there should be no taxation without representation nor should there be any representation without taxation. Assuming that we stay with a bi-cameral legislature the number of Senators from each state should be fixed and uniform and preferably selected by the legislature of each state. However as to the members of representatives that a state possesses instead of being based solely on population that representation must include whether substantially or in part on the amount of taxes that a state paid in the preceding term. The state itself would determine how the representatives are selected whether by district or at large or by some combination. By basing representation upon taxation the powers that the house of representatives wields will be balanced by the burdens accompanying that power. As to the confederal judiciary it would be better to have the appointment and removal power be in the hands of the state governments.
Harold Crews
MONOPOLIES
They are the scourge of a free market that stifle the liberty and independence of the common man. How do we deal with them in a Confederate way that keeps with the principle of Subsidiarity?
Haha! Lakota Republic? Kingdom of Hawaii? Mormon Republic?!
Mormons are a minority in Idaho and Wyoming. Native Hawaiians are a minority in Hawaii, and the Lakotah are an extremely small minority in Montana, and the Dakotas. This has got to be a joke.
A true revolution, reorganization, or secessionist movement has GOT to be democratic. For example, the Southern secessionist movement is perfectly fine because most Southerners are, well, Southern!
I understand what you are saying, however, it does not take a majority to create a nation. All you really need is about a 10% minority who strongly believe in it, and no organized group that could stand against it. The map does not reflect the former USA after secessions, but rather the former USA after the collapse of the federal government and the natural cultural divides that would likely comprise new nations. I admit, the Lakotah and Mormon republics are a stretch, but they are possible, in the absence of any other movement to stand in the way and override them. Quite frankly, I suspect these regions may simply become independent states in the absence of any credible movement to unite them under various banners. The northern frontier states may simply be absorbed into Canada as well. Who knows what the future really holds.
Catholic knight what you are proposing is exactly what the Communints NWO wants to happen to the USA. You are proposing Aztlan for the south west? Have you heard of the group La Raza? They are a Marxist liberation theology organization that is wanting the same thing. They call it Aztlan as well!
Look I am very upset what is happening to this country but I don't believe in dividing it up the way you propose. I believe in praying for my country and educating fellow citizens to vote and informing them of the dangers of Agenda 21 NWO.
Anonymous, I am aware of these things, and I am not "proposing" the divisions described above. I am just saying they are "likely possibilities" now, because of the sins of this nation. Indeed we will all be much better off if America just repents and is spared of all this. I do pray for that regularly. I just don't think it's going to happen. This nation has a long history of learning lessons the hard way.
I do think the United States will likely continue to exist, but in a much smaller and weaker form. This will likely be America's chastisement.
There comes a time every once in a while when a man needs to think about his own family, community and state more so than his national country. This is one of those times. The USA is not an idol, or at least it's not supposed to be. When the national government threatens to wipe out all vestiges of Christendom, persecute what is left of Christian morality, and generally castrate the Church and family, the time has come to start thinking about local preservation more than national politics.
The battle is over my friend. The Liberals (both Democrat and Republican) have won. America is in freefall. God has already placed the seeds of our national chastisement within our midsts. They are growing and cannot be stopped. We can pray for God to spare us all we want, and perhaps in his mercy he will, but the time has come to choose. Which seed of chastisement do you stand with? Are you with Aztlan or Dixie? Are you with Cascadia or Vermont? I didn't pick these factions. They were there long before I ever noticed them. Nevertheless they are there and they are real. So long as they continue to grow, we know God's chastisement on the USA is eminent.
For all her faults, both historical and present, I choose to stand with Dixie. It is the best chance for a return to something close to Christendom. Unlike Aztlan or Cascadia, both of which I want nothing to do with, Dixie was a real country at one time, with a real history, real independence, real culture and a real chance of rising again. The English have been able to keep down Scotland for some time, just as the Yankees have been able to keep down Dixie, but time is running short now. As the grip of these empires weaken, so will their hold on these nations. Outside of a miraculous spiritual revival of their Christian heritage, nothing can stop the move toward independence. Sometimes when the world says "come together," the Lord says "come apart". Sometimes that's his way of waking nations up from their spiritual slumber. That is what it will likely take for America. I see virtually zero chance of Americans choosing the path of repentance and mercy instead. It's just not in our national nature.
Anonymous, I would have to disagree. The United States or more correctly the Establishment that controls the United States is the heart and soul of the NWO. Without the US the NWO would be toothless. If the United States were to cease to exist as it currently does and a number of nations were to replace it that would make it far more difficult for the North American Union to be formed to be then wedded into a global government. The NWO wants to subvert the US by melding it into a larger block not by it breaking up into independent countries. The NWO is all about centralisation. It favours decentralisation only when it weakens an opponent not when it undermines its base.
Harold Crews
As an addendum to the second post of mine if the NWO were supporting the breakup of the US then they are doing a very poor job of it. Where is the favourable media coverage or the funding? What you'll find instead is that the Establishment pours contempt on secessionist movements (particularly Southron ones) by slanderous attacks and having been personally active in the Southron movement for a while and knowing some of the leadership let me assure you it is woefully underfunded. There are no grants from the big foundations for us and never will be.
The agenda of the NWO is unification, not secession. All the big money and political powers are pouring into the expansion of NAFTA and the emergence of the NAU. The secession of US states, especially a Christian Confederation of republics known as Dixie, is the exact antithesis of what the NWO wants. This is why I suspect the emergence of credible secession movements in the United States is a sign that God's chastisement has come upon the USA. For the power elites, indeed the devil himself, would have the USA not only remain united under secularism and multiculturalism, but also be united with Canada and Mexico under one NAU flag. For decades our presidents and congressmen have neglected our nation's cultural and social needs to build this monstrosity called the NAU. When God's chastisement comes in its fullness, I believe the plans of these evil men will not only be foiled, but reversed, as the United States itself fractures and divides into multiple confederations and independent states.
Nice web site, I'm also impressed/confused by the overwhelming Catholic/catholic perspective that seems to inform many of those involved in Southern Nationalism. Would love to read as article examining this. The Empire is in decline, the existential external threat to the West (USSR) being removed 20 years ago realignment of interests begins. This will probably increase as the Empire goes into conquest/looting mode to sustain itself.
Catholic Knight , Your propsed plan might come true look what La Raza and Mecha want to do in the next five years. They want a war to claim back the South West "Aztlan" This is serious!
As I said above, it's not a "proposal" but rather just a prediction of "likely possibility." I want nothing to do with Aztlan, as I believe it to be racist at the core, which is one of the many reasons why I left California. Yet outside of brute force (which the U.S. government is not likely to use against supposed "minorities"), I don't see how these people can be stopped. Even if brute force were used, their plans would only be delayed. The secession of the Southwest United States is inevitable.
http://m.examiner.com/exPhoenix/db_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=NBOjpwAj&full=true
Here is the link to the news article that La Raza and Mecha want to go to war against the US in the next five years. They want to reconquest the Southwest and call it Aztlan.
What makes me more sick is that the USCCB through ther Campaign for Human developement arm funds La Raza. Archbishop Gomez of Los Angeles works closely with La Raza in connection with the Dream act and immigration policies.
These organizations are nothing but Marxist/liberation theology promoters. Just like the Marxist liberation theology groups in the Middle East. Sadly too many in the Church hierarchy work with them as well. They support terrorism! It looks like if the USCCB doesn't renounce La Raza and Mecha and stops funding them , then they too are being complicit in supporting acts of terrorist threats against the USA.
In all charity, I suggest to you Catholic Knight, that you get your head out of clouds with all of this monarchy fantasy. I am actually related to King Ferinand and the Great Queen Isabella of Spain. My ancestors have been here for 500 years. I have no desire to live under any human monarchy or Communist/Marxist/Facist government.I believe my ancestors the former King and Queen of Spain would agree with me. The only monarchy I am looking forward to is that of Christ the King and His Queen Mother the Blessed Virgin Mary.
I haven't had time to update the "About" page yet, but my views have already changed on the monarchy thing. Of course I do believe a day will come when God will send a European monarch to restore Christendom in Europe, and I do believe at that time the world will have dispensed with modern republics as we currently know them, favoring instead parliamentary monarch systems. However, that day has not yet come, and I don't believe it can come until the Chastisement of God comes on the whole world first. So what I'm saying is this. Monarchy is a default form of human government, that happens on it's own when everything else falls apart. Therefore, there is no sense wasting one's time trying to create one from scratch.
So while I am still a monarchist at heart, my only king is Jesus Christ, and my only queen is his Hebrew mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary. Until such time as they see fit to establish a intermediary king over me, I (just as any other Catholic) am bound to the systems of government of this wicked age. That being said, I long for the independence of Dixie and the reestablishment of the Confederacy.
Fascinating
As a Non-American reader who shares your Catholic Celtic heritage I find your thesis very interesting and I believe more in tune with recent history than many imagine.
There is a lot of recent precedent to support your ideas and nations older than Dixie have re-emerged.
I'll give your 3 examples
1 Devolution of the United Kingdom, it began with the Irish in 1916 and simmered through the 20th century now Scotland and Wales are increasingly independent! (bear in mind that Wales was assimilated in the 12th century) and they have preserved their unique cultures despite the best efforts of the English! It is now getting to the point where Cornwall and Yorkshire are re-asserting 'national' identities.
2 The very rapid breakup of the Soviet Union was again followed by the reemergence of sovereign nations, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus and the Ukraine to west, Russia in the middle and many 'Stans' in the south west! Again it was the unravelling of an empire forged of a longer time frame than the US! Equally fascinating to me was the return of Orthodoxy to the heart of Russian life! If you want to see national leaders going to church on holy days you need to watch Moscow not Washington TV!
3 And the final example is Poland, a nation and culture that has survived very real attempts at its extermination since the 18th century! Saved by language, attitude and faith! And I do believe divine intervention in the form of the late pope!
Like you I know my heritage - Irish Rebels and Catholic Jacobite Scots, both remnants of an ancient world order that stood for nearly 2 millennia!
There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come.
God bless
Brother, I find your site the high point of my week. Viewed it for years,first comment. Please continue to keep us informed.
I would like to say, however I do not always agree with your stances on some subjects. I must agree with the above comments from the fellow talking about La Raza. Most of the forces trying to break up the USA would be enemies of Dixie as well.
There is a benefit to one nation under god, we just have to work a little harder to secure it.
I have seen you call yourself a monarchist. For those who are likely to misunderstand what you are actually saying when you say that, you specifically mean Constitutional Monarchy. I also believe Constitutional government is the best form of government, I just think all constitutional government shares this merit.
The Catholic church is modeled after the Roman republic. It took over 500 years before the republic became an empire. We can avoid the same fate, the Catholic Church has lasted as a specific form of republic for almost 2000 years. It has weathered every attack against it in the past, the US can do the same. In comparison to some of the attack against the Church the current troubles are mild. Have Faith.
One thing I agree with is that the South has been needlessly maligned. The fact is that although there were many in the south that supported slavery, most fought for state self determination. Today we see that those who are racist are dying out but the dream of state self determination is as strong as ever.
I see from your argument that you are primarily pro-state. I applaud this, I just think you have given up on the USA to easily.
Do you not think that the south can win the hearts of the north? I can tell you, its starting to.
Do you not think the north has something to offer to the south? Being a Yankee living in Dixie I can say we have much to offer.
I have lived most of my adult life in the military, the mix of northern and southern cultures is a day to day reality for me, This nation is made greater by taking the best of who we are and discarding the rest. Moses took the gold out of Egypt, as people of faith we must take the gold from each others Egypt and become closer. This does not mean multiculturalism or losing regional differences, its about respect.
I guess my point is that there is a spiritual storm on the horizon. We all hear the thunder, but I assure you, we have not seen the lightening yet. Only a powerful unified force will be able to withstand this storm. Europe is falling, the other powers of earth are riddled with the heresy of communism. The rest of Earths good countries are divided. Only America stands.
The enemy has launched a two prong attack. He would be satisfied if either one succeeded. Divide us, or corrupt us. He only needs to win on one front to win; we need to win on both fronts to stop him.
Jesus Lives brother.
Hi, I know this is a slightly older post, but I just found this blog, and was hopping you would be kind enough to answer a few questions from a curious Northerner.
1. It is my understanding that the South is primarily Evangelical and has historically been pretty Anti-Catholic, more so than the North. At least that's what I was taught in Catholic school in Philly. Is this still the case and if so, what do you plan to do about it?
2. Why did you put Texas with Dixie? Whenever I hear talk of Texas seceding, I always hear them becoming their own republic again. From what I've heard from my Texan friends, Texas has its own mix-mash of culture that only loosely fits in with the rest of the South.
3. Aztlan would be mostly Hispanic right? In general, Hispanic people are very dedicated to the Catholic faith, why would Dixie be better for Catholics?
4. What do you plan to do to combat the reasons the South fell the first time, namely poor infrastructure, and limited resources. If Texas doesn't join Dixie, there goes most of your oil, and you have most of the bread basket still being part of the U.S.
Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.
Meg, these are some excellent questions and I want to thank you for asking them. First and foremost I should point out that while many Dixie Nationalists are advocating open secession from the USA, I am not. What I advocate is preparation, by that I mean preparation to rebuild Dixie as an independent nation just as soon as the USA crumbles under the weight of its own federal government. So please keep that in mind.
Answer to Question #1: The South is predominantly Evangelical now, though it wasn't always that way. Prior to the Civil War the South was predominantly Episcopalian, but that's another story. Having lived on both the West Coast (mostly Catholic) and here in Dixie (mostly Evangelical) I can personally attest that Evangelicalism is not always synonymous with anti-Catholicism. In fact, I encountered more anti-Catholicism among Evangelicals on the West Coast than I have in Dixie. Here in Dixie, Catholicism is virtually unknown, and so it's mostly a curiousity to Evangelicals. Catholics are often viewed as eccentric, and most Evangelicals are unsure if they are truly "Christian". Usually they will admit that they're ignorant of Catholicism when asked, and are often pleased to hear we worship only one God who is incarnate in Jesus Christ. They're usually surprised to learn we don't worship Mary, but they are generally accepting of that when you tell them. There are of course exceptions to that norm, and we do occasionally encounter hardened Fundamentalists, but as I said, they are the exception to the norm. I am much more likely to find myself in arguments with Evangelicals from California. So the way I see it anyway, the Southland of Dixie is prime missionary soil for Catholics, and indeed Evangelicals are converting by the truckload down here every year.
Answer to Question #3: Aztlan is somewhat of a questionable nation when it emerges. It is predominantly hispanic, and overwhelmingly Catholic, but its current movers and shakers are mostly Marxists. So when Aztlan emerges, and it will emerge, good Catholics in that region are going to have to take the bull by the horns and steer that emerging nation in a better direction -- one more aligned with the Catholic Faith. If they are successful than Aztlan can become a good place for Catholics, especially if they are Spanish speakers and can adapt well to Hispanic culture. (I myself am capable of this, though it is not my preference.). For Catholics who like to speak English, such as myself, and are accustomed to traditional American culture, the Southland of Dixie would be a better choice, especially if they have a missionary spirit.
Answer to Question #2: The maps I've created are just speculation not proposals. I honestly don't know what the future holds. I'm just trying to make educated guesses. When it comes to Texas, you're guess is probably as good as mine. There are three dominant cultures in Texas, so any one could take over the whole state, however Texas is strong enough politically to assert its historic will. I honestly don't know how Texas will align in the coming American breakup, but I suspect that when in doubt she will revert back to something familiar -- Dixie. This of course would mean securing the boarder with Mexico and Aztlan, as well as pushing the Texas version of Dixie language and culture upon its entire population -- assimilation. (This can be easily done with public education and America did it for decades prior to the 1970s.)
Answer to Question #4: This is not 1860. The Southland of Dixie is highly developed now, both in industry an agriculture. So survival as a nation is not only possible but highly probable. Getting back to what I said above, I'm not advocating open secession, but rather preparation for the inevitable fall of the United States of America. When that happens we will all be in poor shape from coast to coast. In my opinion, Dixie stands the best chance for a rapid recovery if the people of the South are prepared for it, culturally, economically and politically.
I hope this addresses your questions, and thanks for asking. God bless.
Let us not forget CK, that it was a Catholic priest in Atlanta during the war of Northern Aggression, who threatened Sherman as he was approaching they city, not to burn five of it's buildings, all of which were churches, only one was a Catholic church. And he then told the Irish conscripts to go AWOL if those buildings were torched.
As a Catholic growing up in the South, I experience ignorance about my faith. I was bitter about it, however, I came to realise that the greater ignorance was mine. When I returned home to the Faith after a dismal time away, I used my new zeal for the Faith to learn so that I may properly evangelise the Evangelicals. Sadly, I have more in common with Southern Evangelicals than I do with Yankee (so-called) Catholics.
One last thing..we in the South have already attained secession in 1860, we are now under Federal occupation...much like Guam or Puerto Rico..or Iraq for that matter. We need to end the occupation.
For the record; I personally see no contradiction between a confederacy of states and a southern monarchy, so long sovereignty resides solely in the states, and the powers of the monarchy are on loan by constitutional restriction. To primary duty of a confederate king must be to protect the sovereignty of the states from corporations and money cartels seeking to undermine that sovereignty. Of course the king need not be royalty either. Separating the head of state from the head of government may work just as well by creating a constitutional republic with both a president and a prime minister. In this scenario, the president serves an extended term and functions much like a king, protecting the interests of the states against the confederate government's tendency to consolidate. The prime minister would serve as the political agent working very much as an executive on domestic matters but answering to the president should he step on states rights. This later model preserves many of the finer characteristics of a constitutional monarchy without any of the trappings of royalism.
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