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Not long ago I believed when the federal government collapses, under its own colossal weight and crushing national debt, state governments would pick up the banner where the federal government had fallen. I even believed it possible that new nations would rise from alliances between these state governments, the most enthusiastic of them being Dixieland, which I believed might be rebuilt on the common moral values between various conservative Christian denominations. After the recent 'Personhood' vote in Mississippi, however, I am seriously beginning to doubt that possibility. It would seem that Southern Christians are not as unified on their moral values as I previously thought. In what is supposed to be one of the most conservative states in the Old South, sixty percent of Mississippi voters opted to jettison the 'Personhood' amendment for fear that it might intrude on their sacred cows of in vitro fertilisation and morning-after pills. Choosing instead to flush the amendment, Mississippian voters (mostly conservative) stated they would rather continue the wholesale slaughter of pre-born human life than infringe upon their modern conveniences. This is nothing short of a catastrophic loss of moral decency and Christian virtue. It is a sign that the worst has happened. Even the once solid Christian South of the United States, the buckle of the Bible Belt, has completely lost its way. If the 'Personhood' amendment cannot pass in Mississippi, than it cannot pass anywhere in the United States.
So what comes next? Do we try to re-evangelise the South?
The answer is no. There isn't enough time. While evangelism should always be the personal goal of any Christian, we can no longer count on this as an effective method for saving our civilisation. The early Christians evangelised more than any others in history, and yet the Roman Empire still fell. St. Augustine of Hippo tells us that the reason for Rome's fall was that it was built on a flawed Pagan morality -- moral relativism -- and this eroded the very foundations of the empire. It could not be saved, no matter how many of its citizens were converted to the Christian faith. The Empire's foundation was built on sand. The only thing it could do was collapse. So likewise, we are discovering that the morality our modern Secular civilisation is built on is identical -- moral relativism -- and so likewise the fate of the once great United States shall be similar.
The only question that remains is 'how long do we have left?' Rome was not built in a day, nor did it fall in a day. It actually took about 100 years for the Roman Empire to completely collapse. In contrast, the Soviet Union was built almost overnight, and likewise it fell almost overnight. I suspect the fall of the United States will be somewhere in between. I think our demise began in September of 2008 with the economic collapse. Everything since then has been a downward spiral; economically, politically and socially. If the United States accepts that it is finished as a superpower, brings home all our troops from around the world, cuts out all of our national deficit, and begins restructuring our economy to encourage the growth of small business and manufacturing, it is possible the United States may survive another fifty years, leading us into a gentle decline and breakup into multiple nation-states. However, if none of these things happen (and they won't), than I believe we can expect a much more catastrophic economic collapse in the nearer future, resulting in a full scale political implosion on the national level. This of course will initially result in martial law and local occupation by federal troops, but that will be short lived, as there is no way this federal government can micromanage an entire continent with troops it cannot even pay or feed. Federal loyalty will soon give way to local loyalties, and that will be the end of it. Within a very short time after that (perhaps just a few years) there will be nothing left of the United States to speak of, other than some tattered flags (that nobody makes anymore) fluttering in the wind. State governments may try to stand in the gap, but they will soon be confronted with the realisation that they have no taxes to raise and thus no ability to do anything. Thus they will collapse shortly thereafter. Government will be reduced rather quickly to local city municipalities, which will be forced to charge outrageous taxes to assure their citizens of safety. Local police forces will become the backbone of citizen armies. Honourable ex-military veterans will become the knights of a new Dark Age.
What we cannot know for sure is exactly how our current civilisation will collapse, but what we can know is how it will be rebuilt, for we have an example in history. It will be rebuilt around the only legal structure that will remain standing after the fall of the states and the federal government. That legal system was the only system left standing after the fall of the Roman Empire. It is the Catholic Church's 'Code of Canon Law.'
So what can we do now to prepare and expedite this process when the day finally comes? While stocking up on food, water and necessities is always a good idea, that will not rebuild our civilisation or make the world a better place when the stuff finally hits the fan. What will save our world for us and our children is networking, and by that I mean intensive religious networking between those who share the EXACT SAME moral values. Similar values are not good enough. These values must be IDENTICAL, or the networked community will eventually fall apart.
The good news for faithful Catholics is this. When the stuff finally does hit the fan, and our civilisation crumbles, there will no longer be room for happy-clappy neo-liberal Modernism in the Catholic Church. Those priests that cannot wake up and smell reality will soon find themselves overwhelmed and unable to function. The only priests that will be able to cope are those with enough discipline (doctrinally and liturgically) to rebuild a civilisation! (Perhaps this is why we Traditionalists are being made to wander in the wilderness of Modernism now, to prepare us for the rebuilding that lies ahead.) When faithful traditional Catholics are finally released from their restraints, and allowed to rebuild without boundaries, the reformation of the Church will come quickly.
In the mean time, this is what we can (and probably should) do. Think of this as both a short-term and long-term goal. We need to physically move closer together. Right now we are too spread out. We need to find relatively strong and growing Catholic parishes. These parishes are the ones we must try to physically move closer to. The closer you physically are to your parish chapel, the better off you will be when the stuff hits the fan. Try to get within reasonable walking distance of your local parish chapel, but make sure it's a growing and thriving community first, with reasonably sound orthodoxy. The same goes for monasteries and convents. If you are anywhere within a few hours drive of one, and it is physically possible to do so economically and practically, you should move to within a few minutes drive of these locations. However, the same rule must apply. These monasteries and convents must be growing and thriving to be considered good candidates.
Physical walking distance is an absolute necessity, because in a complete and total civilisation collapse, gasoline may be too expensive to be practical. People will quickly be reduced to moped-scooters, bicycles, and good old fashioned horse power (I'm talking about the kind you feed). Thus average daily commutes will be reduced from 20 miles to 2 miles maximum. Catholics in rural areas will be highly dependent on monasteries and convents. If you live in a rural area, and there is no Catholic parish nearby, and you happen to have some land (or know another Catholic who does), consider donating it to a Traditional Catholic or Anglo-ordinariate Catholic community with a simple deal. "You supply us with the priest, and we will supply you with all the land you need, and a group of families to help." Thus, if you can't get close to a parish or monastery, than maybe you can get a parish or monastery close to you!
Parish and monasteries with nearby dense Catholic communities will be a necessity, because Canon Law may be the only thing left to govern us. If we are too spread apart, we cannot network, nor can we practically be governed. The idea here, by moving closer together, is to establish an enclave of law and order, in what is likely to become a continent of chaos and anarchy. In time these enclaves WILL grow, because people always prefer order to chaos, and as a result Americans WILL convert to the Catholic Christian faith en mass, because they will see that Catholics actually have their act together (legally) while the few Protestant sects that remain fumble around trying to put something together in a trial and error process. We Catholics have done all this before, during the Dark Ages, following the fall of the Roman Empire. That's where Canon Law comes from. So we actually have some experience with this. The Protestants have no experience in this department -- zero! Whatever enclaves they manage to set up will be quite a mess for some time, if they manage to survive at all.
So start doing your homework folks. I don't know how much time we have left, but it can't be too much longer. Maybe a decade, maybe two at the most, but the time is short -- very short. Find those parishes and religious communities that are worth a darn, then work on a plan to get yourselves closer to them, or else find a way to get them closer to you. If however, you are already blessed to live close enough to one of these parishes or monasteries, than it's your job to talk to your priest about helping distant parishioners move closer. Perhaps some kind of 'parishioner rescue-relocation network' can be created. Tick-Tock; the clock is running, so I guess we better get cracking!

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God's providence has a purpose in everything it does. That recent vote against the personhood amendment exposes the root of the Culture of Death - the homosexual culture, the fornication culture, and the contraceptive culture. God is effecting a radical purification leading to a temporary total distruction (the total melting down of a dented and battered vase), to lead to a restoration in which society will once again be built upon a solidly Catholic foundation.
I'm sorry that things have turned out the way they have Sir Knight. I hope if this goes as bad as you think that Catholics truly will be able to band together successfully. I'll just have to keep an eye on how things fair in my country.
Question Sir Knight - Do you think America will fall before or after Europe.
-Antaine
Antaine, that all depends on what you define as the fall of Europe. If you mean the fall of the EU than I suppose the fall of the US could happen after. However if you mean the fall of Secular Europe in general (all European nations) than I believe the US will fall either before or simultaneously. We have to remember that unlike America and the US, Europe and the EU are not the same thing.
St. Benedict anybody?
His pioneering monastic folk set up their communities strategically in areas where the faith was either sparce or if in existance within the target location, brittle. Monastic plants were also carried out in places where the populous was also thin on the ground. This
i) enabled the monastic plant to go ahead with enough land/resources to permanently erect itself and continue
ii) to support struggling, small or fragile Christian communities to grow and gain in strength
iii) to allow room for others to follow after them and organically facilitate permanent and growing communities in terms of faith, civil matters and industry.
Of interest, the BBC are running a documentary series here in aus this evening where four towns of the UK with lengthy history are examined to see why they have been so successful, and as a means of seeing what may be the best model on into the future.
the commentators have already come out and stated that neither the village or city are viable in the long-term, but it is the town that is. having lived in rural towns, I can agree; with everything in half an hour's walking distance one way, these are the best model. also, they allow the rural ring to easily provide for the town, and town industry to support its agricultural sector. A town would be the ideal size to protect and manage as there is a dense enough population to service a town security, crime management, etc.
For we in the very large cities, moving close to a good parish may be interesting; I believe it will be the towns that make it; monastic towns are an excellent example. also Parish towns; that is, the town growing up around the church, as you've already alluded to.
What will this mean for us in Australia I wonder. We are by and large a godless, hedonistic people - remember, in Australia the first pub (tavern) was built fifty years before the first church; earlier houses of worship having been put to the flames by the people.
Sir Knight, while I have been an avid reader of your blog for a while, I am not really the type to comment. I agree with a large percentage of what you say on many topics, but I always thought you were a little optimistic about the possibility of a new Dixie rising from the ashes of the United States. Living as I do in a small town in southeast Missouri, I see up close the outward display of people's morality in a supposedly conservative population.
Some of these people may wave the Confederate flag, but they seem to have all the sentimentality of being born and raised in the South without very many of the morals or manners of their forebears. In fact, many of the younger people sneer at Christianity openly, whether it is because they see the hypocrisy of their family members, or they were not truly taught why certain things are wrong beyond "because God said so" or because Christianity forbids them from doing what they want, or all of the above.
Even in my young life, I remember that years ago, on Sunday morning, nearly everyone used to be up and at church. Now, the neighbors' children stare at my husband and I getting in the car to go to Mass, and everyone's cars are in the driveway when we leave and return. I reckon God just gets in people's way, and they ignore Him most of the time.
Marissa, thank you for the comment and feel free to post anytime. This vote in Mississippi was a real eye opener for me. My mother is a Southerner and grew up not far from where you are. She raised me on the West Coast with old Southern values and made sure to tell me where she got them. I was raised to know who I was, and where my people came from. But now, as I see what has happened in Mississippi, I am forced to conclude the values my mother taught me are becoming just as antiquated in the South as they were in California thirty years ago.
That's it. If the personhood of the preborn child is no longer recognised in Mississippi than it will not be recognised anywhere. It's over. The Old South is gone. It died sometime over the last twenty years or so. Racism improved, but virtues were lost. The whole thing is a wash I suppose. We cannot rebuild on this.
So I'm afraid when the collapse comes, we will be rebuilding on a micro-level under some kind of post-modern feudal system. There will be no revived Confederacy. We must return to our parishes and monasteries, and there our political allegience will be found. We shall rebuild from scratch. For that is likely all we will have left. In the end however, God will use it to put an end to all denominational divisions among Christians in America. When we emerge from the other side of this collapse, we will all be Catholic.
The defeat of the Personhood Amendment was merely the opening shot of a long struggle.
I'm thinking more of Lexington & Concord than Ft. Sumter.
Kkolwitz, I tend to see it as the exact opposite, a final ditch salvo in one of the last battles. I've been fighting this culture war since the middle 1980s. If this is the Civil War, than we are the South, and we are loosing badly. The 'Personhood' vote was Gettysburg. The Huffington Post's followup article was Lincoln's address. Appomattox is not far ahead.
Look, I'm not saying the South CAN'T rise again, I'm just saying it WON'T rise again with the type of moral ambiguity we just saw displayed in Mississippi. There is going to have to be a cultural renewal first, and culture is based on religion. Southerners are no longer on the same page anymore, when it comes to the most important moral issue of our time. The 'Personhood' vote in Mississippi demonstrates that the deep South has fallen into the same kind of moral malaise that California was in back in during the 1960s and 70s. This is not a good sign.
The concept of empires thriving when virtuous and collapsing when immoral was popularized by the Jewish old Testament and taken up by the Protestants who believed that the Protestant British Empire and then Protestant America were God's new chosen peoples. This theory however has no basis in Christianity nor historical fact.
Rome lasted almost 1000 years and was never really a virtuous people; they were simply more organized and committed nationally and then lost their order and zeal due to comfort. The same goes for the rise and fall of the Spanish and British Empires. Empires fall when they lose the characteristics that made them great in the 1st place. These characteristics are not the same as being morally good however.
Love your blog!! My husband has interview for a job in Columbia, MO. Do you know anything about that area? I am deadly horrified of tornadoes:( We live in MD right now, any advise would be nice!!
Have you read I'll Take My Stand by Twelve Southerners? Even back in the 1930s the money economy had fundamentally changed the South. We'll have to return to bartering for the South to rise again or have a Dixie dollar.
I believe that the most obvious political effects of American decline will be felt in the international arena. The Feds will give up on international commitments long before allowing the sections to be carved out of the 50 states. i.e. PRChina will grab Taiwan and the US will not be able or willing to stop or reverse it; the Mideast will continue to implode; economically the US will be beholden to the WTO, "free traders" and the international banksters causing the further erosion of the middle class. Only if the USA was (God forbid) nuked would it split into regional nations. The Feds will not easily relinquish power and have the means to retain central control. Having read "Trial, Tribulation and Triumph" I strongly concur with it's emphasis on prayer, penance and sacrifice as the only way forward...
I feel like we are living out the book of Isaiah.
Sir Knight, don't give up hope. I know the failed amendment is a setback but that is mankind and our egos trying to do God's work. While I believe we need to do everything to save and protect the unborn it's not our job to save the Church and the world- we need to give the LORD time and space to do His work and be His instruments as he sees fit-
He said He'd save and protect His church. If we managed to save the world and His Church He'd be superfluous. maybe we should do out best and let Him do His.
Sorry Sir Knight. I just meant Europe. I meant do you think the countries of Europe will fall into catastrophe first, not will the EU break up first.
Antaine
That's hard to say. I suspect the US will collapse either before the European nations do, or at about the same time, but certainly not after. This is because when Europe falls, the whole world will likely be engulfed in war as a result. America will either be falling simultaneously, or else she will have already fallen.
Sir Knight, It's good that you say to make sure that any move we make to a monastery or church be to one of reasonably sound orthodoxy. I'm a Benedictine oblate who had the great misfortune of coming head to head with an abbot of unsound doctrine. I've since had to change monasteries... and my house is now far away, but VERY sound in doctrine. I'm as far south as you can go and the liberalism in the parishes of my diocese is staggering. I too was caught off guard by this vote in Mississippi..but knowing what I know of the churches around me I guess I should have seen it coming. As you say virtues were lost here years ago.
Like minded people are hard to come by, but they're out there ..
Thank the Lord, I know a few.. +
Sir Knight, I still have hope. We have Medjugorje. Our Blessed Mother has not given up on us. Let's not give up on her. Even with all of the world's turmoil, God is in charge.
This overly totally unbelievably simplistic in its analysis. Although there are problems facing the United States, your analysis is as speculative as Hal Lindsey. This is rubbish if I may say and you need to trust in the providence of God and let things roll out as they come and not with any pre-conceived notion of what's going to happen.
Unfortunately, this was not done in a legislative fashion. Pro life advocates must become more savvy, and follow the Constitution. It is the only way.
Your analysis of doom and destruction bears no realtion to Catholic teachings.We are an Easter people and travel in hope and trust. Think less pray more - you are way off the mark here
Look at it this way - how did the previous personhood amendments do? Oh, right, this is the first one (maybe second). And we started with 40% of the vote. all we need is another 11%. Look how the gay marriage folks fared - even in the most liberal places, they lost by wide margins. You know that didn't stop them, nor should it stop us. The very fact that we could get the amendment out there, and get 40% on essentially our first shot, may not be all that bad. If nothing else, it raises the issue into the public conscious, much like the SSM referenderums did.
...these enclaves WILL grow, because people always prefer order to chaos, and as a result Americans WILL convert to the Catholic Christian faith en mass, because they will see that Catholics actually have their act together (legally) while the few Protestant sects that remain fumble around trying to put something together in a trial and error process. We Catholics have done all this before, during the Dark Ages, following the fall of the Roman Empire. That's where Canon Law comes from. So we actually have some experience with this. The Protestants have no experience in this department -- zero! Whatever enclaves they manage to set up will be quite a mess for some time, if they manage to survive at all
Actually, there is ONE historical precedent for Protestants creating a new nation in the wilderness. It seems to have worked fairly well for a few centuries. Happy Thanksgiving!
As to the idea of America devolving into scattered "barbarian" communities, and then rising again via Catholic enclaves (or Evangelical "New Pilgrims", or for that matter Mormons, who have a systematic disaster plan already in place) -- I can only hope you are right. That's the best case scenario.
But many, many supposed prophets (Catholic and Protestant) seem to believe that the final act of the American fall, will be a massive foreign military action, taken against us when we are weak and in disarray, and aimed at (a) controlling the immense natural resources of the continent, (b) securing slave labor, and (c) preventing America from rising again.
Some of these prophets assert that the occupation will not be permanent, but that American guerillas will eventually liberate the land from the Russian, Chinese, and other occupiers. That remains to be seen. But pretty much all of these prophets claim that, there will be MASSIVE loss of life before it's over. After all, there are 52 million abortions yet unavenged...
van Rooinek, I am very interested in these particular prophecies that mention America. I've not seen them yet. Could you please provide some references?
Prophecies of doom? Their name is legion, for they are many; just google Prophecy America. A lot of them set dates that come and go, though.
Here are some examples that sort of make sense:
Catholic
http://www.tldm.org/Bayside/Messages/BM830326.htm
Russian Missles, Chinese troops..
Mormon
http://www.moneyteachers.org/Hoffman.Prophecy.htm
contains 1979 description of 9/11.. later, Russians and Chinese nuke and invade.
Protestant
http://www.survivalprimer.com/2005CallToArms/ChicagoEarthquakeRussianInvasionACalltoArms.pdf
Natural disasters, nukes, invasion by Russia, China, etc, occupation/slavery, eventual liberation.
BTW Youngbrandt's stuff has been posted and reposted with years added by others (leading to dates passing by without fulfilment) but these not part of the original prophecy!
George Washington, 1777
http://www.civil-liberties.com/pages/prophesy.html
3 great perils, 2 have happened, the third is "the whole world" ganging up on us, all our cities burned, invasion.
Interestingly, both Washington and Youngbrandt claim, American resistance fighters will be reinvigorated by divine intervention, leading to a eventual liberation. Hoffman merely says, the Russians and Chinese lose but she didn't see how.
Take it all with a grain of salt. But the idea that God might just decide to judge the USA fiercely, is perfectly consistent with Scripture and our national behavior.
Regarding the Catholic source. Bishop Francis Mugavero, made the following declaration on November 4, 1986...
"I, the undersigned Diocesan Bishop of Brooklyn, in my role as the legitimate shepherd of this particular Church, wish to confirm the constant position of the Diocese of Brooklyn that a thorough investigation revealed that the alleged "visions of Bayside" completely lacked authenticity.
...Therefore, in consultation with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, I hereby declare that:
1. No credibility can be given to the so-called "apparitions" reported by Veronica Lueken and her followers.
2. The "messages" and other related propaganda contain statements which, among other things, are contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church, undermine the legitimate authority of bishops and councils and instill doubts in the minds of the faithful, for example, by claiming that, for years, an "imposter (sic) Pope" governed the Catholic Church in place of Paul VI."
As for the other non-Catholic prophecies, I wouldn't put much weight in them. Just my opinion.
I've just stumbled upon this blog. This blog is awesome! You seem to know your Catholic stuff so I have a few questions for you:
1. If it's time to go to war, should we fight or give the other cheek? When is it okay to go to war and fight? is that even ever okay?
2. What about Mexicans and other Catholic immigrants, is that helping or hindering?
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